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Stupid Things Joseph Prince Followers Say and Believe

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Last Update 24-10-17I can I cannot      
               
The following stupid statements are all due to the fact of the ignorant not heeding Kipha's (Peter) warning about the error of lawlessness. We have all been there at some stage in our lives but now it is time to wake up and be revived!!

Stupid Statement 1:

"How can [you] uphold the law. When you fail one you fail them all. You can't uphold the commandments of the Living God on your own. Stop trying [to] make God notice you with your own righteousness, which he hates, and walk according to Jesus righteousness, which is I am righteous because Jesus finished work at the cross makes me righteous?"

Our Reply :
“You can't uphold the commandments of the Living God on your own.” Well there is your problem. I am not on my own I have the Father Yah’uah and his Son Yah’ushua and his pure spirit (the mind of Messiah). I can do it even as Shaul (Paul) said I can  and as he and the apostles did

 Rom3: 31 Do we then make void the law(to’rah) through moral conviction (emunah) (pw godess faith)? Elohim (pw God) forbid: yea, we ESTABLISH THE LAW.

ESTABLISH = [*StrongsGreek*]
2476 histemi his'-tay-mee a prolonged form of a primary stao stah'-o (of the same meaning, and used for it in certain tenses); to stand (transitively or intransitively), used in various applications (literally or figuratively):--abide, appoint, bring, continue, covenant, establish, hold up, lay, present, set (up), stanch, stand (by, forth, still, up). Compare 5087. see GREEK for 5087

Are you calling Yah’uah Elohim a liar when he says I can do it and you say I cannot??

Ex 30:11-14  For this commandment which I command thee this day, it is not hidden from thee, neither is it far off.
It is not in shamayim (pw heaven), that thou shouldest say, Who shall go up for us to shamayim (pw heaven), and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?
Neither is it beyond the sea, that thou shouldest say, Who shall go over the sea for us, and bring it unto us, that we may hear it, and do it?
But the word is very nigh unto thee, in thy mouth, and in thy heart, that thou mayest do it.

He said this before Messiah died for me and now that he has died how much more moral conviction do I have?

Are you calling Shaul a liar too then when he said we can do it referring to this WORD in my mouth, the To’rah and the moral conviction? Shaul referred to what Yah’uah had said in Exodus that I can do it in case people like you try to call Yah’uah a liar and bring along a catholic J-Zeus. Put this in your pagan peace pipe and smoke it:

Rom 10:6 “But the righteousness which is of moral conviction (pw Faith) speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into shamayim (pw heaven)? (that is, to bring Messiah down from above:) 7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Messiah again from the dead.) 8 But what saith it? [Here he is quoting from Exodus above:]
The WORD (TO’RAH) is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the WORD (To’rah) of moral conviction (pw Faith), which we preach; "

Shaul preaches the same To’rah that Yah’uah preached and said CAN BE DONE by me since it is not difficult it is in my heart, in my mouth I can do it!! Messiah has done it for my past sins and now I follow him.

Now that I have been justified I must purge / purify myself daily from the pollutions of this world (Joseph Prince is one of those pollutions) then I can do his Righteousness, his good work

2 Tim 2:19... LET EVERY ONE THAT NAMETH THE NAME OF MESSIAH DEPART FROM INIQUITY (LAWLESSNESS, TORAHLESSNESS).

Sorry what does Shaul say?

2 Tim 2:19... LET EVERY ONE THAT NAMETH THE NAME OF MESSIAH DEPART FROM INIQUITY (LAWLESSNESS, TORAHLESSNESS).

Sorry what does the scripture, the GOOD MESSAGE (pw Gospel /Godspell) of Yah'uah say?

2 Tim 2:19... LET EVERY ONE THAT NAMETH THE NAME OF MESSIAH DEPART FROM INIQUITY (LAWLESSNESS, TORAHLESSNESS).

Sorry Joseph Prince followers did you get that? One more time:

2 Tim 2:19-21...LET EVERY ONE THAT NAMETH THE NAME OF MESSIAH DEPART FROM INIQUITY (LAWLESSNESS, TORAHLESSNESS).


 But in a great house there are not only vessels of gold and of silver, but also of wood and of earth; and some to honour, and some to dishonour.
IF IF IF IF  a man therefore PURGE HIMSELF................, PURGE HIMSELF ...................PURGE HIMSELF.................. PURGE HIMSELF.................. PURGE HIMSELF.................. PURGE HIMSELF.............. PURGE HIMSELF........................ PURGE WHO?????  PURGE HIMSELF from these, he shall be a vessel unto honour, purified (pw sanctified), and meet for the master’s use, and prepared unto EVERY GOOD WORK

Sorry just in case you did not get it: 

1 Jn 3:3 And everyone who thus trusts in him (YAH'UAH ELOHIM) PURIFIES HIMSELF as he (YAH'UAH ELOHIM) is pure. 


17Purify them through thy truth: thy WORD (To’rah) is truth.

19 And for their sakes I purify (pw sanctify) myself, that they also might be purified (pw sanctified) through the truth.

Yah'ushua purified himself so that he remained righteous so must I through his WORD (TO'RAH) but you can remain in your filthy rags of Joseph Prince's filthy words (doctrines). His doctrine tells you to practice lawless SUNday worship and to profane the shabbat, The truth, the To'rah tells me the shabbat is a sign that Yah'uah purifies me. No wonder you cannot accept the sign of the true Elohim since you are self purifying yourself in Joseph Prince's filthy word and he is your mighty one (pw god)

Yes Yah’uah hates my own righteousness that is why I follow HIS righteousness, the same righteousnesss that his son followed and tells me to follow.

Jn 15: 10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father’s commandments, and abide in his love.

There is no self righteousness in the one who follows the righteousness set out by the Father are you so dumb??? Joseph Prince follows the self-righteous pope and HIS commands ie SUNday worship and profanes Yah's righteousness of the shabbat. He is self righteous

There is only righteousness and unrighteousness, Self righteousness is unrighteousness it is sin, transgression of the To’rah, dah!

1 Cor 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of Elohim (pw God)? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of Elohim (pw God).

What are all these mentioned above?  These are sins (transgressions of To'rah), and where and by who are they defined as sins? Not by myself, they are not my standards of righteousness, they are Yah’uah’s as laid down in his To’rah but it is you who is self righteous and deceived. You are saying that his To’rah is self righteous - SHAME ON YOU!! WAKE UP IF YOU FOLLOW SHAUL. HEAR HIM! HE IS SAYING DO NOT BE DECEIVED -YOU SHALL NOT INHERIT THE RULE AND REIGN OF YAH’UAH IF YOU SIN - YOU ARE SELF RIGHTEOUS THEN REGARDLESS OF WHAT YAH'USHUA (pw Jesus) HAS DONE FOR YOU.

Yah'ushua tells me to keep Tor'ah given by Moses, not takanot, by-laws (self-righteousness of man-made doctrine)

Torah not Takanot


takanot like Sunday worship takes away the rest of Yah'uah from the foolish,  his shabbat  (seventh day of rest) that he has given those who follow him. takanot of Babylon is grievous as opposed to Yah'uah's To'rah of New Yarushalom which is not.

1 Jn 5:3 For this is the love of Elohim (pw God), that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

The work of Yah’ushua is not finished at the stake (pw cross) he is still working in me perfecting me and purifying me and he still has to defeat the last enemy which is death. If his work were finished people would be in shamayim (pw heaven ) already but they are not. The resurrection of the righteous still has to come or do you follow the catholic fables as well?

Messiah’s work was amnesty for the whole world, we all came short while we WERE still sinners. He is our righteousness as far as our ignorant sin since the To'rah under the Levitical priesthood had no atonement for ignorant  sin. Only Messiah the Lamb could atone for all the sins of the world and its ignorance. But not all the world repents, not all of the world is righteous then else it would be if it were just by your fake J-Esus/ J-Zeus without works of righteousness. Judas too would be righteous and saved but he is not. He is a "lost son of perdition" (Jn 17:12). Yah'ushua is not a universalist from the universal (catholic) church preaching all are saved by a magical Tammuz cross.

NOW THAT WE ARE NO LONGER IGNORANT WE DO NOT MAKE SIN OUR PRACTICE OR OUR PROFESSION AS YOU SEEM TO.

1 Jn 2:29 If you know that he is righteous, you may be sure that everyone who PRACTICES righteousness has been born of him.

1 Jn 3:4 Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness.


If you sin wilfully now there is no more atonement since the atonement of Yah'ushua was for ignorant sin and you would be in danger of despising his blood.

Heb 10: 26-31 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more offering (pw sacrifice) for sins,  But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.  He that despised Moses’ law died without kindness (pw mercy) under two or three witnesses:  Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of Elohim (pw God), and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was purified (pw purified (pw purified)), an unset apart (pw unholy) thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of favour (pw Grace)?  For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Master (pw Lord) Y. And again, The Master (pw Lord) shall judge his people. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living Elohim (pw God).

You cannot simply declare righteousness, name it and claim it. You must PRACTICE IT.

How does your magic J-Zeus righteousness cloak, your super judgement protector suit  work for you when the real Messiah comes on judgement day and you are continuing to sin- what will he say? What does the true Messiah Yah'ushua say as opposed to the J-Zeus/ J-Esus fake Messiah.
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Mat 7:20-23 Wherefore by their fruits (works of righteousness) ye shall know them. Not every one that saith unto me, Master (pw Lord) Master (pw Lord) , shall enter into the kingdom of shamayim (pw heaven); but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in shamayim (pw heaven). [HIS WILL NOT YOUR WILL, NOT YOUR SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS, HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS - his TORAH]. Many will say to me in that day, Master (pw Lord) Master (pw Lord) Yah'uah (pw the LORD), have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that WORK INIQUITY, (LAWLESSNESS< TOR’AHLESSNESS)

Your magic cloak will not work. Messiah is not blind to sin he is a righteous appointed judge of Yah'uah.

 You said “Stop trying [to] make God notice you with your own righteousness”

 Yah’uah sure notices us when we keep HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS and he sure notices you when you willfuly sin and trample on his son's blood. (self-unrighteousness) 
In fact Messiah will not even appear to you in character/mind (spirit) correctly, it will be a false Messiah when you do not keep his To'rah, thus you follow a fake lawless J-Zeus who manifests as a familiar spirit or an idol on a chain or on a pagan "church" cross. 

Jn 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest* myself to him.

*means inform by word- so as you hunger for his To'rah he reveals it more to you, he is the To'rah made flesh- he then is fully revealed in word.


I have confidence and you do not thus you do not want to be noticed by Elohim,  think you can hide from him and do not come to his light To'rah. Thus Yah'ushua's amnesty for the world has not been accepted by you since you do not allow his To'rah to shine on your life and direct you in it, you hate it.

John 3:17-21 For Elohim sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of Elohim (pw God). And this is the condemnation, that light (To'rah -fully preached by Yah'ushua) is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light (To'rah), neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth (To'rah) cometh to the light (To'rah), that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in Elohim (pw God).

I shine his To'rah in my life whilst you try to hide it.

Luke 11:33 No man, when he hath lighted a candle, putteth it in a secret place, neither under a bushel, but on a candlestick, that they which come in may see the light.


 I follow the correct doctrine and you do not.

1 John 3:21-24 Beloved, if our heart condemn us not, then have we confidence toward Elohim (pw God). And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, BECAUSE WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS, AND DO THOSE THINGS THAT ARE PLEASING IN HIS SIGHT. And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Yah'ushua (pw Jesus) Messiah (pw Christ), and love one another, as he gave us commandment. AND HE THAT KEEPETH HIS COMMANDMENTS DWELLETH IN HIM, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

Lev 19:17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thine heart: thou shalt in any wise rebuke thy neighbour, and not suffer sin upon him.

So to all you silly Joseph Prince followers who think and say the same stupid things I rebuke you in the name of Yah'ushua and with his love so that you repent and come out of the same stupidity I was in, headed for destruction. If you follow and abide in Yah's good message shalom to you, if you reject it, anathema.


Stupid Statement 2:

The ten commandments are a sure way to hell. Discerning is a sure way to hell. Repent of your discerning and submit to Christ who is Holy!

Jesus made it perfectly clear that the Ten Commandments are obsolete. You can read in Matthew 5 that "Do not murder" is replaced by "Whoever is angry with someone is subject to judgment", and "You shall not commit adultery" is replaced by "You shall not look at a woman lustfully"?


Our Reply:

Yah'ushua never replaced ANYTHING of the To'rah he preached (pleroo) it fully - he magnified the To'rah. 

Are you saying you can murder somebody while feeling "happy" under the influence of marijuana then?? You can commit adultery then if you are blind? Replaced the To'rah?? What next.
Isaiah prophesied 

Is 42:21 Yah'uah is well pleased for his righteousness’ sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.

For more see



Stupid Statement 3:

"true change is from within.The gospel is NOT about behaviour modification, but about heart transformation." Thank You Jesus that I am the righteousness of God in Christ, by faith and not of works


Our Reply:

Yes Hitler obviously approved of the same fake gospel that Joseph Prince follows that is why Hitler also liked and defended Christianity

It allowed him to continue in his To'rahless behavior. He was "justified" to kill in the name of Christianity,  justified by his OWN heart which was transformed toward Germany, the Vaderland, earthly prosperity and power. He was not justified by the true Messiah but satan! He was simply another Crusader having the support of the To'rahless catholic church. Are you a crusader or a Yahudah (worshiper of Yah'uah).

Hitler Shaul does not preach the fake religion Christianity:

Gal 2:17  But if, while seeking to be justified in Messiah, we ourselves also were found to be sinners (Transgressors of the To'rah), is Messiah then an agent of sin? May it never be! 

Sin is a behaviour so you are saying that while being justified you make no behaviour modificaiton towards the works of righteousness. You remain the same sinner you were before or behave like Hitler simply because you have "faith" you are a "Christian"??? You are then clearly following THE agent of sin, Satan. The purpose of heart modification is indeed behaviour modification towards obedience.

Psa 119:68-71  You are good, and do good; Teach me Your laws.  The proud have forged a lie against me, With all my heart I observe Your orders. Their heart has become like fat, Without feeling; I have delighted in Your To'rah. It was good for me that I was afflicted, That I might learn Your laws.

You cannot separate the heart from behavior

Act 7:39  To whom our fathers would not obey, but thrust him from them, and in their hearts turned back again into Egypt,

It is all about works of righteousness, keeping Yah'uah's word. Yah'uah looks at the works of his children, and judgement is based on works.

Rev 3:8  I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.

Jas_2:24  Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and NOT by emunah / moral conviction (pw faith) only.

Mat 16:27  “For the Son of Aḏam is going to come in the esteem of His Father with His messengers, and then He shall reward each according to his WORKS.

 See also Psa_62:12, Pro_24:12 See also Mat_21:44, Joh_5:29, Rom_2:6, 2Co_5:10, Eph_2:10, Tit_2:7 and Tit_2:14, Jas_2:14-24, Rev_22:12. 

For more see Faith Alone?


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Joseph Prince Guru Worshipers
   show dangerous signs of idolatry
by the things they say on Youtube

No surprise since Joseph Prince is indeed
a Quan Ying, Buddah, Water Dragon (satan) idolator

see "Joseph Prince he who
 worships pagan gods"
part 1 
part 2




referring to Joseph Prince:

  "a true angel sent from above"







"Pastor Prince is my favorite because I think his persona best in bodies [embodies] what I imagine the Lord would be like. He shares the gospel so beautifully, tenderly, and passionatly. I think pastor Prince is such a cool chill guy too. Exactly how I imagine Jesus. Loving gentle and powerful."







Dangerous signs of delusion
by the heretical statements they make on Youtube






"walk according to Jesus righteousness, which is I am righteous because Jesus finished work at the cross makes me righteous
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"the ten commandments are a sure way to hell"







"discerning is a sure way to hell"








"the law  is obsolete "






"The good thing is if we fail and give in to temptation we have an Advocate with the Father, that is Jesus Christ and because of Jesus God will not impute sin to us but only mature christians can see this and understand this!!?"




someone quoting their Guru Joseph Prince and their conclusion

""true change is from within.The gospel is NOT about behaviour modification, but about heart transformation." Thank You Jesus that I am the righteousness of God in Christ, by faith and not of work
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